.and its not really winter yet!!! I had these on. 7 mil, but not good enough. My feet were numb from the ankles down and looked like a dead mans feet in the morgue. I drove to the surf shop to buy XCEL boots since their mittens are so warm ( today my hands were sweating and really hot) These are the great mittens these are the boots Funny- I had no idea that they had little cardboard inserts inside so I sat there for half an hour trying these on then figured out the problem. While I struggled, I talked two other people into buying these boots... I shoulda gotten a discount on mine!
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